tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8030144.post1752368107528305314..comments2023-10-29T11:50:25.742+02:00Comments on My Obiter Dicta: Plus Ca Change: Torah UMadda and Rav MelamedJeffrey R. Woolfhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11315625918870195028noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8030144.post-3729568130262533182009-08-19T17:46:50.738+03:002009-08-19T17:46:50.738+03:00the arguments about whether Torah U'Madda is l...the arguments about whether Torah U'Madda is lechtchilla or bedieved, or whether RZ is messianic or not are so tiresome. It's time to get over them and move on.<br /><br />I believe that a secular education is necessity and permissible. I also believe that it is legitimate to hold the opposing view.<br />I believe that RZ is largely not messianic and that people who claim otherwise repeat a cannard over and over again.<br /><br />A state run "according to halacha" can have a very broad definition of what halacha is when running a state. If one reads Rav Naftali Bar-Ilan's 4 volume set on running a state according to halacha it is very clear that this is not necessarily a contemporary version of the Aruch Hashulchan Haatid meant for future use. Also everyone knows that charedim don't really mean it when they say that they want the Shulchan Aruch to be the constitution of the state.<br /><br />That being said that doesn't mean we have to bend over backwards (like some "modern orthodox" religious zionists do) and take Arik Carmon's and IDI's post-zionist constitution as normative.ben bayitnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8030144.post-45813165753479247482009-08-17T23:03:32.706+03:002009-08-17T23:03:32.706+03:00I only wish it were. In fact, I only wish someone ...I only wish it were. In fact, I only wish someone would sponsor the translation of the Orthodox Forum volumes into Hebrew.Jeffrey R. Woolfhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11315625918870195028noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8030144.post-7654401872206325792009-08-16T20:44:19.742+03:002009-08-16T20:44:19.742+03:00If religious Zionism stands for creating a state t...If religious Zionism stands for creating a state that will be run according to Halakha then secular education is a necessity. If instead it reflects a messianism where the Mashiach will resolve all questions then it is not. <br />Yosef BlauYosef Blaunoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8030144.post-57421228363941978892009-08-16T19:13:34.696+03:002009-08-16T19:13:34.696+03:00Does anyone know if R. Lichtenstein's masterfu...Does anyone know if R. Lichtenstein's masterful essay in JJ Schacter's book is available online?J.noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8030144.post-15659484069663842002009-08-14T18:36:24.439+03:002009-08-14T18:36:24.439+03:00so nu? what do we do?so nu? what do we do?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com