tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8030144.post3613738205739578785..comments2023-10-29T11:50:25.742+02:00Comments on My Obiter Dicta: Of the Rav, Rav Schachter and MishpahaJeffrey R. Woolfhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11315625918870195028noreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8030144.post-42123537104193277302009-12-31T12:15:23.532+02:002009-12-31T12:15:23.532+02:00I am constantly amazed by the incredible inferiori...I am constantly amazed by the incredible inferiority complex people like you from YU have. You are constantly searching for approval from the Haredi world and any time they throw a bone in your direction, like this article, it seems that it as if the Mashiach has come for you. Constantly you are bringing quotes that Haredi leaders made on occasion acknowledging Rav Soloveitchik as a Torah scholar on a par with theirs, as if otherwise, you really wouldn't be sure of it.<br />For all your criticism of the Rav Kook people, you must at least admit that they have confidence in their beliefs are are not always looking over their shoulders at what the Haredim think. They built their own school system outside both the regular Mizrachi State Religious system and the Haredi schools that has succeeded in turning out scholars as well as a committed laity. This is because they are committed to their values and don't seek approval from those who don't accept their derech in any event (and this includes the secular Zionist leadership that much of the Religious Zionist movement felt it needed the approval of but which many of Rav Kook's followers realized the bankruptcy of long ago)Y. Ben-Davidnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8030144.post-60825116214894845502009-12-30T13:43:54.831+02:002009-12-30T13:43:54.831+02:00listen to rabbi arnie rakefet's news conferenc...listen to rabbi arnie rakefet's news conference on the mishpacha article on rjbs and you may learn something new. its at 58 min.<br /><br /><br />http://www.yutorah.org/lectures/lecture.cfm/740330/Rabbi_Aaron_Rakeffet-Rothkoff/2009-12-21_Press_ConferenceAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8030144.post-60617495583153516822009-12-27T18:35:51.571+02:002009-12-27T18:35:51.571+02:00The article was written primarily for a charedi re...The article was written primarily for a charedi readership so let's go easy on him. I just heard that the author of the piece also published a critically acclaimed commentary on Sefer Yonah. He seems to be gifted writer as well as a sharp thinker.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8030144.post-61396304333294088892009-12-27T15:09:05.353+02:002009-12-27T15:09:05.353+02:00No article is ever perfect. But if you think about...No article is ever perfect. But if you think about the Herculean task this writer had I think it was as close to perfect as it possibly could be. It was a suoer piece of writing, and a convincing one as well.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8030144.post-536960677147361392009-12-26T21:03:53.540+02:002009-12-26T21:03:53.540+02:00daz is correct. The quote about RZ was added by th...daz is correct. The quote about RZ was added by the author of article. <br />Yes, it is misleading of R. Frankfurter. Tradition (a few? years ago) had discussion of Rav's view of zionism. Back and forth with R.Meizelman and R.Lichtenstien.<br /><br />Article, obviously, does not mention R.Schachters positive approach to EY and Medinah - 10 reasons to celebrate Yom Haatzmaut - available on YUTorah.org.dasnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8030144.post-59437368259788009512009-12-25T20:57:50.437+02:002009-12-25T20:57:50.437+02:00I like how you have Menachem Butler's copy of ...I like how you have Menachem Butler's copy of the cover!EJBnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8030144.post-27879556301044010012009-12-24T18:25:25.375+02:002009-12-24T18:25:25.375+02:00I don't belong to the yu community but I respe...I don't belong to the yu community but I respect them, and listen almost every week to rav shechter's weekly parsha shiurim. I was happy to get some inside to this great torah giant.<br />today I was turned off seeing the "the commentator" article about four gay men. I simply don’t get it - what rav shechter is doing there - is this really the institution where the rav and so many roshei yeshiva served.inhumanityhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04689040918330257538noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8030144.post-73972359876605033862009-12-22T18:59:45.610+02:002009-12-22T18:59:45.610+02:00Wow. The version of the article posted on VIN too...Wow. The version of the article posted on VIN took the "zionism" quote out:<br /><br />http://www.vosizneias.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/R-schachter.pdfdaznoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8030144.post-42090821499814385272009-12-21T18:30:41.607+02:002009-12-21T18:30:41.607+02:00Rav Schachter cites David Holzer's highly prob...<i>Rav Schachter cites David Holzer's highly problematic collection of the Rav's private table talk, Thinking Aloud, to the effect that Religious Zionism had replaced the Torah with Zionism. This citation was particularly troublesome by the way it was manipulated by the interviewer.</i><br /><br />As I recall (I don't have the article before me), the author -- not R' Schachter -- cited the Holzer quite. In fact, the Holzer quote followed a quote from R' Schachter criticizing the book, which I thought was extremely chutspadik by the author. I think the criticism of R' Schachter on this point is unfair because he had nothing to do with the Holzer quote.daznoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8030144.post-37869163458711976592009-12-21T06:39:05.635+02:002009-12-21T06:39:05.635+02:00definitely worth more with an autograph. anyway, a...definitely worth more with an autograph. anyway, am i wrong in seeing a slight in the magazine calling a 70 year old rabbinic leader, a "prize disciple"? doesn't that detract from and diminish his stature as a leader in his own right?Tzvee Zahavyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15833902273722124103noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8030144.post-76345327978508000302009-12-21T03:01:15.870+02:002009-12-21T03:01:15.870+02:00The interested reader will note that Rav Schachter...The interested reader will note that Rav Schachter's autograph adorns the image included at the MyObiterDicta blog. However, that autograph does not appear on every cover of this issue of Mishpacha, but was rather gathered by myself after I received a copy of this issue and brought it to Rav Schachter and asked for his autograph last week!! thanks for linking!!Menachem Butlerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00074784950795186720noreply@blogger.com